Коды ошибок на Каргу

Александр, опубликуй пожалуйста коды ошибок на Каргу 180 Е24, 2002 г.в. А то там поднакопилось их штук 5, а к нашим диллерам я ехать не хочу (писал уже на форуме о них).....А так электрик грамотный есть, но что означают эти моргания он сказать не может)) Спасибо

пиши коды моргания отвечу

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Сейчас моргает 11, 17 и 63...остальные куда-то делись. Стояла со скинутой клеммой пару часиков пока генератор в ремонт возили - может поэтому. А скинуть все просил, т.к. иметь под рукой такой список намного удобнее, чем вот так вот из-за каждой ошибки писать сюда сообщения....да и оперативно ответить ты не всегда можешь, а стоять из-за этого обидно((

17 несоответствие датчиков педали тормоза и газа
11 датчик скорости автомобиля
63 датчик числа оборотов двигателя

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Люди добрые помогите, загорается код 72, что он означает Question

проблема в том что не светят фары, нашли разрыв провода в плафоне салона, устранили, а свет так и не горит Sad

как быть не знаем Crying or Very sad

Про код не в курсе - сейчас знающие люди придут, ответят. А про "разрыв провода в плафоне салона" - он у нас каким-то образом с фарами связан чтоли? или это просто единственное, что нашли неисправного во всей электрике...Ну а вообще проводку прозванивали, выключатель проверяли?

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Запчасти б/у на EuroCargo 180e23

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код 72 на что выбивает
на какой блок
и какая карга
мне нужен год чтобы посмотреть схему

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	Александр писал(а):
	код 72 на что выбивает на какой блок и какая карга мне нужен год чтобы посмотреть схему

EuroCargo ML120E21 07г.

Судя по всему там стоит Chassis electronic control unit (M.E.T) вот он и управляет светом смотри провода от него на фары
либо неисправность самого блока выгорели ключи

Diagnosis with BLINK CODE
EDC warning light behaviour
After having rotated the key to ”running”, the EDCwarning light turns on; afterwards, if no anomaly is recognised, the EDCwarning
light must turn off.
Depending on anomalies being present or not, the warning light can have the following behaviours:
Warning light off
1 Noanomaly
2 Light anomaly that does not generate degraded performance; failure detectable with BLINK CODE and diagnostic instruments
Warning light fixed on
1 Anomaly on brake pedal signals
CRUISE CONTROL functionality removal
2 Serious anomaly; degraded performances; failure detectable with BLINK CODE, or diagnostic instruments
3 Anomaly on unit; degraded performances or inefficient system.
Warning light blinking
1 Very serious anomaly; degraded performances; failure detectable with BLINK CODE, or diagnostic instruments
BLINK CODE ACTIVATION / READING
The blinking code activation occurs by pressing the BLINK CODE push-button placed next to U.C.I.
The BLINK CODE identifies one anomaly at a time without distinguishing between present and intermittent anomalies; in order
to display all codes in memory it is necessary to activate the BLINK CODE key many times.
The code is composed of two digits and is displayed with slow blinkings followed by quick blinkings.
If there are no failures in the system, the EDC warning light does not provide any information and turns on only once.
Every time the key is turned to ”running”, the EDC warning light must turn on; if this does not occur, check wiring and warning
light.
IMPORTANT
Unit connection and reconnection operations are carried out with disconnected positive battery pole.
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EDC SW 3.3_1 Blink Code
Blink
Code Anomaly description EDC
warning light
Power
reduction
VEHICLE
1.1 Vehicle speed signal On x
1.3 Cruise Control push-buttons On -
1.4 Accelerator pedal signal On x
1.5 Clutch pedal switch signal On -
1.6 Brake pedal switch signals feasibility On -
1.7 Brake/accelerator signal plausibility Off -
1.8 EDC warning light on dashboard On x
1.9 Selector for exhaust brake presetting On -
ENGINE 1
2.1 Water temperature sensor signal On -
2.2 Supercharging air temperature sensor signal Off -
2.3 Fuel temperature sensor signal Off -
2.4 Supercharging pressure sensor signal On x
2.5 Atmospheric pressure sensor signal Off -
2.6 Oil pressure sensor signal On x
2.7 Oil temperature sensor signal On -
2.8 Heated filter control relay Off -
2.9 Pre-post heating resistance control relay On -
ENGINE 2
3.7 Battery voltage On x
3.8 Pre-post heating warning light Off -
3.9 Pre-post heating resistance On -
EXHAUST BRAKE
4.6 Exhaust brake solenoid valve On -
6-cylinder
INJECTOR
4-cylinder
INJECTOR
5.1 Injector solenoid valve cylinder 1 Injector solenoid valve cylinder 1 On x
5.2 Injector solenoid valve cylinder 2 Injector solenoid valve cylinder 2 On x
5.3 Injector solenoid valve cylinder 3 Injector solenoid valve cylinder 3 On x
5.4 Injector solenoid valve cylinder 4 Injector solenoid valve cylinder 4 On x
5.5 Injector solenoid valve cylinder 5 - On x
5.6 Injector solenoid valve cylinder 6 - On x
5.7 Crankshaft 1 (cylinders 1 - 2 - 3) Crankshaft 1 (cylinders 1 - 4) On x
5.8 Crankshaft 2 (cylinders 4 - 5 - 6) Crankshaft 2 (cylinders 2 - 3) On x
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Blink
Code Anomaly description EDC
warning light
Power
reduction
ENGINE REVOLUTIONS
6.1 Output shaft sensor signal On x
6.2 Camshaft sensor signal On x
6.3 Engine speed signal plausibility On x
6.4 Excessive engine speed Blinking x
6.5 Starter relay On -
6.6 Revolution counter signal Off -
6.8 Synchronism problem with diagnostic tool Off -
INTERFACES
7.2 CAN line Off -
7.3 CAN line Off -
7.4 CAN line Off -
DASHBOARD
7.1 Vehicle speed limiter push-button Off -
7.5 Exhaust brake warning light Off x
7.6 Oil pressure warning light Off x
7.7 Oil pressure instrument Off x
7.8 Coolant temperature warning light Off x
7.9 Coolant temperature gauge Off x
FUEL PRESSURE
8.1 Fuel pressure check Blinking x
8.2 Fuel pressure signal Blinking x
8.3 Pressure regulator solenoid valve Blinking x
8.5 Pressure drop in rail Blinking -
CONTROL UNIT
9.3 Communication with Immobilizer Blinking -
9.4 Main relay On -
9.6 Internal control unit error On x
9.7 Sensor powering On x
Procedure for deleting failure memory by Blink Code key:
Key-switch off.
Keep the Blink Code key pressed from 4 to 8 seconds while the key-switch is connected.
x = Power reduction
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BLINK
CODE
EDC
WARNING
LIGHT
POSSIBLE
CAUSE
POSSIBLE
ANOMALIES
ADVISED TESTS
OR INTERVENTIONS NOTES
1.1 On Positively short-circuited or
ground-short-circuited
vehicle speed signal
Maximum power and speed
reduction
Possible lack of speed
indication on tachometer
Incorrect Cruise Control
operation
If the tachograph is operating, check
wiring and connections between
tachograph and control unit.
If the tachograph is not operating,
check wiring and connections between
sensor and tachograph.
Error detected only with moving vehicle,
and only in case of a short-circuit.
If the signal is not present, no error is
detected, since the control unit believes
that the vehicle is not moving.
If the signal is not present, it is possible to
insert the Cruise Control at very low
speeds also (with operation depending
on power takeoff parameters) because
the control unit does not detect that the
speed threshold dividing Power takeoff
and Cruise Control modes has been
exceeded.
1.3 On Non-plausibility of cruise
control/power takeoff
control keys
Cruise control/power takeoff
are not operating
Parameters reading with Modus
IWT-IT2000 to locate the faulty key
Check wiring between steering column
stalk and control unit, connections,
control keys.
1.4 Blinking Positively short-circuited or
ground-short-circuited
accelerator pedal potentiometer
or too high
accelerator pedal supply
voltage or potentiometer
defect
Power reduction
Minimumaccelerated (about
1100 rpm)
Parameters reading with Modus
IWT-IT2000
Check wiring, connections, components
If it is not possible to accelerate through
the pedal, driving can be carried out with
Cruise Control keys after having
disconnected the speed sensor
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BLINK
CODE
EDC
WARNING
LIGHT
POSSIBLE
CAUSE
POSSIBLE
ANOMALIES
ADVISED TESTS
OR INTERVENTIONS NOTES
1.5 On Clutch switch: non-plausible
signal (signals the control
unit that the clutch is
pressed while it is not)
Not operating cruise
control/power takeoff
Operate the clutch by completely
pressing the pedal and by reading status
parameters on MODUS IWT-IT2000
Visual LED check on sensor head under
plastic guard (with released clutch the
LED must be on)
If the switch is not broken and well
adjusted, check wiring, connections
and correct switch assembly (distance
from pedal 1-3 mm)
If the pressed clutch signal is lacking, the
unit is not aware of it because it deems
such status as normal
Cruise Control/Power Takeoff are not
operating because the unit believes that
the clutch pedal is always pressed.
1.6 On Unfeasible brake switches -
signals between primary
and secondary
Possible lack of stop lights
operation
Possible lack of cruise control/
power takeoff operation
Parameters reading on Modus
IWT-IT2000-11-03
Check wiring, connections, switches
Check the correct assembly of pedal
switches (they must be simultaneously
operated in reverse)
1.7 Off Brake/accelerator pedal
plausibility, or simultaneous
activation of brake and
accelerator
Engine revolutions drop to
minimum speed
Parameters reading on Modus
IWT-IT2000, check that accelerator
pedal potentiometer signal is reset
upon release, otherwise it is possible
that the driver has pressed brake and
accelerator together
If brake is actuated with pressed
accelerator, the engine goes back to its
minimum speed till the brake is released,
so that it is possible to stop the vehicle
even if the accelerator pedal has to be
locked in an intermediate position (safety
strategy).
Instead, it is allowed to accelerate with
pressed brake pedal without any safety
strategies intervention.
1.8 Warning light
on dashboard
off. Warning
light on Blink
Code push -
button on or
vice versa
Faulty warning light on
dashboard
Power reduction
The warning light is never on
when the key-contact is
inserted.
Power reduction tomake the driver go to
an Iveco assistance point (in case of main
warning light defect only)
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BLINK
CODE
EDC
WARNING
LIGHT
POSSIBLE
CAUSE
POSSIBLE
ANOMALIES
ADVISED TESTS
OR INTERVENTIONS NOTES
2.1 On Positively short-circuited,
ground-short-circuited or
open-circuited water
temperature sensor
Slight power reduction
No instrument indications
Parameters reading on Modus
IWT-IT2000.
Check wiring, connections, switches
Power reduction to protect from
overheating
2.2 On Positively short-circuited,
ground-short-circuited or
open-circuited air
temperature sensor on
suction manifold
Slight power reduction Parameters reading on Modus
IWT-IT2000.
Check wiring, connections, sensor
Power reduction tomake the driver go to
an Iveco assistance point
2.3 On Positively short-circuited,
ground-short-circuited or
open-circuited fuel
temperature sensor
Slight power reduction Parameters reading on Modus
IWT-IT2000.
Check wiring, connections, component
Power reduction tomake the driver go to
an Iveco assistance point
2.4 Blinking Positively short-circuited,
ground-short-circuited or
open-circuited air pressure
sensor on suction manifold,
or sensor supplied by a
current that exceeds the
minimumormaximumlimit
Power reduction Parameters reading on Modus
IWT-IT2000.
Check wiring, connections, component
Power reduction to avoid fumes
2.5 Off Positively short-circuited,
ground-short-circuited or
open-circuited ambient
pressure sensor (integrated
into the control unit)
Contact the Help Desk and comply
with its instructions for possible control
unit replacement.
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BLINK
CODE
EDC
WARNING
LIGHT
POSSIBLE
CAUSE
POSSIBLE
ANOMALIES
ADVISED TESTS
OR INTERVENTIONS NOTES
2.6 On Positively short-circuited,
ground-short-circuited or
open-circuited oil pressure
sensor (integrated with oil
temperature sensor)
Power reduction
No instrument indications
Parameters reading on Modus
IWT-IT2000.
Check wiring, connections, sensor
If the oil pressure is too low, engine
performances are reduced (engine
protection strategy).
Such strategy is carried out for safety
reasons, also in case of sensor-related
error.
2.7 On Positively short-circuited,
ground-short-circuited or
open-circuited oil temperature
sensor (integrated
with oil pressure sensor)
Power reduction Parameters reading on Modus
IWT-IT2000.
Check wiring, connections, sensor
If the oil temperature is too low, an
engine revolution limiting is carried out
depending on oil temperature (engine
protection strategy).
Such strategy is carried out for safety
reasons, also in case of sensor-related
error.
2.8 Off Faulty fuel filter heater relay Active diagnosis on Modus
IWT-IT2000.
Check wiring, connections, component
2.9 On Faulty pre-post heating
resistance control relay
Active diagnosis on Modus
IWT-IT2000.
Check wiring, connections, component
3.7 On Non-plausible battery
voltage signal (too low or
too high)
Very accelerated idle Batteries test with IWT
Carry out the appropriate checks on
voltage regulator and batteries
It could happen that in practice it is not
too low or too high a voltage, but a
voltage that is recognised as
non-plausible by the control unit.
3.8 Off Ground-short-circuited
preheating warning light
Preheating warning light
always on
Active diagnosis on Modus
IWT-IT2000.
Check wiring, connections, component
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BLINK
CODE
EDC
WARNING
LIGHT
POSSIBLE
CAUSE
POSSIBLE
ANOMALIES
ADVISED TESTS
OR INTERVENTIONS NOTES
4.6 On Positively short-circuited,
ground-short-circuited or
open-circuited engine
brake solenoid valve
The engine brake is not
operating or is always
activated above 1000 rpm
Parameters reading on Modus
IWT-IT2000.
Check wiring, component and
connectors
5.x On Ground-short-circuited or
open-circuited electric
injector part
The engine rotateswith 3 (5)
cylinders
Engine test with Modus IWT-IT2000.
Check wiring, connections, component
It is possible that, immediately afterwards,
the engine goes on rotating with 2 (3)
cylinders, because injectors are driven by
two power stages. In such case error 5.7
or 5.8 can also be stored.
5.7
o
5.8
On Power stage for cylinder
block 1 or cylinder block 2
The engine rotateswith 2 (3)
cylinders
Delete failure memory and try again.
If the error remains, and only after
having excluded an injector failure (see
5.x note), contact the Help Desk and
comply with its instructions for possible
control unit replacement.
It can happen if the external control unit
housing has been placed in short circuit
with the battery + (accidental bridge with
key or other elements)
6.1 On Drive shaft sensor: lack of
signal or non-plausible
signal
Difficult startup under any
condition
Power reduction
Check wiring, connection, sensor
placement
If the flywheel signal is not present, the
camshaft sensor speed signal is adopted.
Power reduction tomake the driver go to
an Iveco assistance point.
6.2 On Camshaft sensor: lack of
signal or non-plausible
signal
Difficult startup with hot
engine, impossible startup
with cold engine
Power reduction
Check wiring, connections, sensor
assembly
If the camshaft signal is not correct, the
flywheel sensor phase signal is taken.
Power reduction tomake the driver go to
an Iveco assistance point.
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BLINK
CODE
EDC
WARNING
LIGHT
POSSIBLE
CAUSE
POSSIBLE
ANOMALIES
ADVISED TESTS
OR INTERVENTIONS NOTES
6.4 Blinking Excessive engine revolutions Power reduction Flight Recorder (Stored Data) reading
with Modus IWT-IT2000
Driver sensibilization
7.2 Off CAN line Incorrect Immobilizer
operation
Check wiring, connections and closing
resistance (120 ohms)
The Immobilizer does not intervene or
does not allow the startup
7.3 Off CAN line Incorrect Immobilizer
operation
Check wiring, connections and closing
resistance (120 ohms)
The Immobilizer does not intervene or
does not allow the startup
7.4 Off CAN line Incorrect Immobilizer
operation
Check wiring, connections and closing
resistance (120 ohms)
The Immobilizer does not intervene or
does not allow the startup
8.1 Blinking Fuel pressure regulator Power reduction Engine Test with Modus IWT-IT2000
8.2 Blinking Positively short-circuited,
ground short-circuited or
open-circuited rail pressure
sensor
The engine turns off and
does not start any more
Parameters reading on Modus
IWT-IT2000
Wiring check and sensor replacement
8.3 Blinking Positively short-circuited,
ground short-circuited or
open-circuited pressure
regulator
Power reduction
8.1 - 8.2 could be present
Engine Test with Modus IWT-IT2000
Check wiring, connections, regulator.
After having removed any other possibility,
contact the Help Desk for a possible
high-pressure pump replacement.
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BLINK
CODE
EDC
WARNING
LIGHT
POSSIBLE
CAUSE
POSSIBLE
ANOMALIES
ADVISED TESTS
OR INTERVENTIONS NOTES
9.3 Blinking The engine does not start.
Communication problems
with short-circuited or
open-circuited Immobilizer
on CAN line
Possible 7.X Check wiring, connections, components.
Carry out an Immobilizer diagnosis.
If wrong key, the Immobilizer warning
light also blinks (the problem is not in the
EDC control unit)
9.4 ON Main relay is not
disconnected
The unit remains always
supplied and the EDC
warning light remains on also
with key Off
Run down battery.
Check wiring and connections
(note: the main relay is built into the
EDC control unit).
Try and remove the fuse and put it
again in place. If the inconvenience
remains, contact the Help Desk for
possible control unit replacement.
9.6 Blinking After-run stopped many
times
Power reduction Slightly warm the engine, take it to idle
and carry out a correct turn-off.

люди, подскажите 58 ошибка что это, другие - 63, 64, 81 прочитал уже.

а чуточку выше по странице поднятся там всё1 есть

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Александр, то как я перевел "5.8 Коленчатый вал 2 (цилиндры 4 - 5 - 6) Коленчатый вал 2 (цилиндры 2 - 3) На x" мне не о чем не говорит. Поэтому я и позвонил тебе. По поводу троения, поменял форсунку на пятом цилиндре, из трубки подвода к форсунке которого не шла солярка, пока работает.Прошу расшифровать мой перевод 58 ошибки.

не работает форсунки 4-5-6 для 6 цилиндрового двигателя либо 2-3 для 4-х цилиндрового, двигатель троит.нет управления форсунками либо неисправность форсунок заменить форсунки, либо обратитесь в сервисный центр для замены блока управления или для ремонта
судя по тому что у вас нет топлива на 5 есть вероятность сгорел ключ управления 5-го цилиндра

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Александр писал(а):

не работает форсунки 4-5-6 для 6 цилиндрового двигателя либо 2-3 для 4-х цилиндрового, двигатель троит.нет управления форсунками либо неисправность форсунок заменить форсунки, либо обратитесь в сервисный центр для замены блока управления или для ремонта
судя по тому что у вас нет топлива на 5 есть вероятность сгорел ключ управления 5-го цилиндра

Блин, классный форум, просто кладезь для ЖП. Ты еще фото платы с указанием на сгоревший ключ выложи.
Поэтому здесь и темы такие, как из стралиса камаз сделать и прочее.